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Showing posts with label infidelity. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 3, 2012

Don’t Hire Me


A common misconception about private detectives is that they are ‘money hungry’ and will do anything for a quick dollar, somewhat like the perception that attorneys are ‘bottom feeders’.  Although I cannot speak for everyone in the investigation industry, our agency actually spends more time counseling people.  Even though it isn’t the norm, we find ourselves being marriage counselors, rather than retaining the client, in some instances actually turning them away.  While most people would consider marriage counselors and private detectives to be polar opposites on the marriage repair scale, our agency shows more compassion than just trying to chase the proverbial buck.
When a marriage is in trouble due to unfaithfulness, the couple may go to a marriage counselor to see if the marriage can be salvaged.  A counselor is typically professionally trained, has a college degree to add to their name, and is state licensed.  For differing reasons such as the marriage seems to be beyond the stage of receiving marital intervention, counseling was attempted and just didn’t work, or one spouse won’t go, the retention of a private detective is sometimes used as a viable option for the spouse that was betrayed.  A private detective does not need to have professional training, or a college degree, but does need to be state licensed in most states.  Additionally, a good detective will have had years of experience in dealing in these matters, have law enforcement background, and will be a member of a governing private investigator association in their state, and have continuing education.
A marriage counselor characteristically works with both marital partners, but not always.  If the cheating partner is still involved in an affair, they typically will not agree to seek help.  They will tell their partner they no longer love them, and may want to leave the marriage. Sometimes the cheater will deny anything is wrong at all while attempting to enjoy both worlds.  In contrast, a private detective will see the offended spouse only at a very sensitive and emotional time in their relationship.  Most likely this is at a period when the spouse is feeling helpless and abandoned, and may be far beyond the point that the counselor is seeing them.  Typically, the spouse that is seeking counsel by themselves is also the one seeking an investigator in order to start to bring closure to the relationship or to determine if there is any hope left at all.  Sometimes they are referred to the investigator by the counselor, or an attorney, if it has gotten to that point.
Since a marriage counselor is expected to assist the couple (or the partner that is seeking counsel) with coping abilities, life skills, and relationship building, their job is set forth over a specified period of time.  This sometimes involves months, if not years, and may even be covered by insurance.  The counselor/client relationship is determined by a preset goal of reaching coping skills.  When a client comes to a detective, similarly there is a specified time set, but the basis is determined by affordability, since it will be cash out of pocket, and also job completion, regardless of the end result.  The outcome is typically finding if the offending partner is simply caught cheating or not cheating.  The common thread between the counselor/client and detective/client relationship, is that there is an emotional bond typically felt by the client, based on a vulnerable point in their life.  This is when they don’t share their plight with anyone in their social circles, if even in their inner circles, usually because of a sense of embarrassment.  They feel they have no one to turn to.  This is even harder when they are not working with a professional therapist.  Where our agency differs from other detective agencies, and where we become like marriage counselors ourselves, is that we actually encourage the client to do anything within their power to save their marriage.  In some cases, that is even more than counselors will advise.  We try to accomplish this prior to conducting surveillance.  First, we recommend that the client purchase the “Love Dare” book and follow it for thirty days.  We advise them of what the signs of a cheater are, and inquire as to what their intention is if they receive negative news.  We take phone calls from them and lend a compassionate ear, most times before accepting a retainer.  The client then decides to either pursue an investigation, continue to work on their marriage, or just throw in the towel.  At least we have the satisfaction of knowing that we, as private detectives, did everything we could to save their marriage, before taking money from them.  A slighted spouse would not come to a detective unless they felt they had no other place to go.  They may feel there is something they want to rescue in their marriage, and have some glimmer of hope that there is something to be reconciled.  Possibly, they may not be ready to let go.  At any rate, some states like Wisconsin are “no fault” states; therefore, there is no need for evidence.  An investigator could, unfortunately, take advantage of an already sensitive situation, accept money, put in some time, and leave the client with no answers.  Our agency differs from counselors, and many detective agencies for that matter, in the fact that we also work off the clock, taking calls from our clients, even after the case is concluded, whether there was a good or bad outcome.  The connection seems to be there for the client to feel comfortable to call and update what is going on in their life.  Sometimes they just want to vent.  We have no problem with that, since good client service not only gives us referrals, but we also have compassion for the human condition and believe in the “Golden Rule”.  Our case does not have to be concluded when we close the file as it does in a therapist’s office.
The role of marriage counselors is not always similar to that of some private detectives, but in the scenario of our agency, we believe it is.  Other than the fact that a counselor may expect the decision of the spouses to be made when they arrive in their office, the client goes to therapy sessions because they need someone to intervene, and give them direction.  As a detective, with years of experience in dealing with cheating spouses, it boils down to the simple fact that each storyline, when it comes to infidelity, practically has the same plot repeated over, and over again, with different actors in each performance.  The villain has the same method of operation each time the story is played out.  Detectives typically only hear one chapter of the storyline, but if they are good at their craft they are also proficient at putting the scenarios and subplots together rather quickly, and knowing when the narration needs to be replaced with a good old-fashioned, gumshoe, action-adventure, motion picture.    After all, doesn’t everyone just need one person they can trust, to chronicle their story?

Wednesday, June 22, 2011

You Don't Want The Kids Around The New Girlfriend/Boyfriend

You are angry now that your ex (or soon to be ex)  is now with the person they cheated on you with.  Obviously you don't want this person around your children. After all, this person  destroyed your family, your marriage.  Well your ex is to blame too, but that is an issue to be touched on a different day.
So what can you do? Surely the courts will say you can keep them away from this person. The truth is, you CAN'T restrict your children from being around your ex and his/her new relationship.                                                                              

So what can you do legally?
Do what you can to find out about this home wrecker's background. If you can't find anything on your own, call us.  What we look for is former relationships that were volatile, or court ordered restrictions on drinking, or drug convictions.  This can all be shown to the courts and can be put in an order as to what restrictions there are. 
If this person is "clean", you can try to at least have a judge order that when your ex has your kids, he has to be WITH them and not at a bar, etc.  This will at least prevent him/her from leaving the kids at a babysitter, to spend time with the other person, or will make their time together not as cute as it was when they were alone. Therefore the "other" person probably won't even want to be around your kids anymore. 
An attorney would be the best to tell you what direction to go.
Also, feel free to give us a call for suggestions or more ideas as to what we would look for.

This is not to say in relationships, that mutually parted, that the "new" person can't be good for the kids.  I am speaking specifically to those who marriages were broken due to infidelity.  That adds a whole new element to the jilted person's feelings.  

If you have any hopes of saving your marriage, because maybe you are separated and your spouse is trying to "find" themselves, think of it this way...your kids being around your spouse and his new (you insert word here), may show the true colors to your spouse that their new relationship wasn't all it was cracked up to be.  Maybe the new person isn't a kid person and the sight of vomit, or whining will send them for the hills. 

Whatever you do, DO NOT talk down about your ex to your children. That is the worst thing you can do to put them in the middle.  It is still their parent.  Also do not give them the third degree after a visit.  We will touch base on this subject a different day also.  Just remember the kids are the most important through all of this, so try very hard to not speak lowly of your ex to them.  If your ex is that bad, they will learn on their own, as they grow older, and will see you were the bigger person to allow them to have two parents.

Phone: 715-524-9044
Email:  magnumi@frontiernet.net

Tuesday, June 21, 2011

Too Embarrassed To Talk To A Private Detective

If you suspect your spouse is cheating, please
don't feel embarrassed  to call and talk to us about it.
Our staff is sensitive to your delicate situation.
 It is quite normal to feel uncomfortable talking to a P.I. about this subject.
That is exactly what most clients tell us.
Why wouldn't it?
You feel devastated, alone, and don't know who to talk to.
You hope you are wrong, yet have suspicions that have to be reckoned with.
You will find that our staff is understanding beyond what you might expect to get from strangers.You will discover that we care as human beings more than looking at it as a job.
We will listen to all of your concerns. 
We offer ideas to assist you the best way that will work for you in your situation.

Please state your preference, if you would rather speak to a male or female, so you will feel as comfortable as possible during this stressful time.
Magnum Staff
715-524-9044

Monday, June 20, 2011

What If He/She Says They Fell Out Of Love With You?

If your spouse or loved one says they don't love you anymore, it usually means that they don't have the same feelings they once had when they fell in love, because something obviously changed. They are looking to recapture those feelings, unfortunately somewhere else. It doesn't necessarily mean that they stopped loving you, but means they stopped investing in you.
This doesn't mean it's your fault. Don't blame yourself. Evaluate where and why things changed, as much as it hurts.

Even though we are hired to follow cheating spouses/boyfriends/girlfriends, this is something we wish we didn't have to do. It is a very hurtful time. If you would like to evaluate your situation before hiring a Private Detective, please visit our website at magnum-investigations.com and check our Resource Page for some very helpful links. We hate to see broken marriages or relationships and hope our resources will help.
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